This article is recommended to parties who count on legal services of the following law firms In Isle of Man:
. Quinn Legal advocates
. Gaugh avocate
. Appleby global advocates
- for more information, pls see also my 3 other blogs:
. Quinn Legal Advocates, Isle of Man, fees and random bills
. Assessment of bills of solicitors or advocates in High courts of justice of Isle of Man
. Corporate service providers, Off shore companies, Isle of Man
- for more information, pls see also my 3 other blogs:
. Quinn Legal Advocates, Isle of Man, fees and random bills
. Assessment of bills of solicitors or advocates in High courts of justice of Isle of Man
. Corporate service providers, Off shore companies, Isle of Man
.
. Background;
Trident Trust company in Isle of Man provided
services for my company for many years until they made a mess in my affairs, as
a result of which I sued them. They lied, cheated, covered up and could get
away with it in the courts of justice.
Mr. Selwyn Haas at Trident Trust company in Jersey ,and Mr. David Bester
managing director, Mr. Barry Short
tax adviser, Mr. Gordon Mundy
managing director, Mrs. Heather Kent manager,
all at Trident Trust company Isle of Man
are a gang of rough, nasty and shady people whom I would not recommend to my
worse enemy. It is better to work with a gang of Sicilians who o they are more
honest because they don’t pretend to be who they are not.
For details for Trident Trust’s case pls
see
So I sued Trident Trust for negligence. I
was a litigant in person and prepared the case myself in great detail. I wanted
to show the court how Trident trust had lied, cheated and tried to cover up.
A few law firms advised
me on the side. An advocate in one of these firms Mr. Charles Coleman at Gaugh Advocates told me that for some
reason ‘which he didn’t know’, litigant in persons had no chance to win there.
He recommended Mr. Christopher Webb at Quinn
legal to represent me during the trial.
Unfortunately I followed his
advice. This was perhaps the biggest mistake that I have ever made in my life.
I don’t understand why Mr. Coleman recommended
Mr. Webb. Subsequently I found out that Mr.
Webb used to work for Gaugh, but as he had made a mess and had been sued he had
left the company, been to a number of firms and ended up at Quinn Legal. It
looks like Mr. Webb goes from firm to firm leaving a mess behind. The fact that
Mr. Webb still manages to work in IOM is very fishy.I suppose there is a big
sense of support, fraternity and solidarity among local professionals. I would
not trust any firm where Mr. Webb works at.It is a sign that they have no
respect for the client.
For more information about this matter pls see:
In
fact Mr. Webb is a total idiot and a danger to the public and should be barred from
all courts of justice. As subsequently I found out that one of his clients had
committed suicide because of the way he had been represented. During Trident Trust company’s trial this
idiot did not follow my instructions, threw out all my evidence , decided to
use his stupid discretion and lost my case.
I got so sick by the way that Mr.
Webb conducted my case, that i had to leave the court room. I got
hysterical and could not go back. Mr. Webb followed me outside. I wanted to
kick and slap that idiot. The only reason that i didn't do it was that we were
in front of the courts of Justice and I thought i might get arrested for
assault then and there.
The Judgement of His Honour
Corlett in the High Court of Justice of Isle of Man, showed that His Honour
who had not read all the documentation had misunderstood practically the whole
case- No wonder...
Basically I lost my case, because Mr Webb
threw out all my evidence before His Honour had the opportunity to examine it.
He did not ask relevant questions, answered for Trident, let them say whatever
they wanted...a total mess. I decided to sue Mr. Webb. However i thought this
time i represent myself. I didn’t need another idiot to loose my case.
Mr. Webb charged me £18000 for 2 days of
work and making a mess in my case. Trident Trust's advocate who had worked 6 months
on the case and written all the documents charged me less than that. I wrote
Mr. Webb an email and brought all the inaccuracies in the judgement to his
attention and asked a refund. He never answered me.
Quinn Legal Law suit
So I decided to sue Mr. Christopher
Webb, previously at Quinn Legal advocates IOM and currently at Gaugh
advocates IOM for negligence. It is
most ironic that once I sued him, he left Quinn Legal and went back to Gaugh
where he had already made a mess. Now isn’t that fishy?? Mr. Webb’s advocate
was Mr. Tim Swift at Appleby global.
I wonder how
Mr. Swift can practice as a reasonable advocate…..he certainly is the slowest
advocate even for IOM s standard. For more information about Appleby global plssee my blog: Appleby advocates IOM, fees and tax bill.
My strategy was to show the court that
Mr. Webb had not explained my documentary evidence properly. He had failed to
show the court that Trident Trust had lied and that the lie
was material and it would have affected the result of the hearing.
In my opening submissions I told the
court that Mr. Webb failed to show the full picture to the court. As such
the previous court had made a decision without hearing everything.
During the cross-examination I showed
many points to the court which Mr. Webb had not shown to the other court.
Then during the closing submissions I put
together all those points and explained to the court how Trident had lied and
cheated and coverd up and even fabricated documents the day of the trial
specially for the judge. In other words I put together all the holes in
Trident's evidence and came up with one obvious straightforward lie!
So i showed the court that Trident had
been dishonest, but thanksto my i diot advocate they could get away with it.
Trial of Mr. Christopher Webb
During the trial Mr. Webb mumbled and
jumbled and said even less than he had said during Trident’s trial. Basically
his defence was that my evidence was not good enough and he used his
discretion- in other words he did what seemed better to him.
His Worhip the High Bailiff J. A. Needham was the judge. He was perhaps the most intelligent person that I have
ever met in my life. He had read all the voluminous files and knew every word
of the case. I was very happy that we had such an intelligent judge. I thought
he would definitely understand the case and finally I would get justice. His
Worship took note of everything which was said during the trial. I was very
impressed.
Naturally as it was the first time that I
cross-examined someone in a court room it was not easy for me.
The Transcript
of the hearing shows that:
. Sometimes Mr. Webb pretended that he
did not understand my questions, but His Worship understood everything and
helped me by explaining my questions to him.
. However sometimes His Worship lost his
patience with me and would say “pass…pass…”, so I asked another question. I
didn’t know what he meant and I was too scared to ask him what he meant. Did it
mean my question was not good? Did it mean he had already understood me? In any
case Mr. Webb could get away with answering many questions.
I
assumed that His Worship already knew the 2 advocates and they had their way to
talk to each other. Sometimes I felt
that I was not included in their discussions. When His Worship talked to the 2
advocates he lowered his voice and talked with respect, but when he talked to
me he shouted and sounded angry , as if he wanted to say you stupid foreign
litigant in person how dare you waste our time. It made me feel like the guilty
party, as if I was being sued for negligence, not Mr. Webb. I had the
impression that His Worship’s main concern was to find my faults. I felt like a stupid student who had not done
his homework properly.
I wanted to know how well His Worship
knew Mr. Webb. So I asked Mr. Webb if he had already presented a case in front
of His Worship. Mr Webb did not answer and His Worship just smiled and did not
tell him to answer my question.
Sometimes when I asked a question which
was not in his interest, Mr. Webb ignored me and turned to His Worship and
whispered something. As they whispered, as if it was a private conversation, I
could not hear many things which were said. So it was as if many of my
questions were remained unanswered.
Other times when Mr. Webb did not want to
answer a question he changed subject. Sometimes he just refused to answer the
question and His Worship did not order him to answer.I got “pass….pass…”
Basically Mr. Webb was very lucky that he
was being sued in his home town in front of a judge who probably knew him!
Mr. Webb’s negligence ;
I had made 3 claims against Trident
Trust.
In very brief terms:
- Claim 1 was about my word against
Trident’s word. Trident said I had given a certain order, but I said that I had
not given that order. It was their misunderstanding.
In
all my statements I had explained that it was important to look at the context,
and there was a chain of correspondence which proved my word . The
correspondence showed that if I had given that order, then I was either stupid
or insane. Mr. Webb had not explained the context and the chain of
correspondence to the other court.
. I asked Mr. Webb why hadn’t he shown
the context and the correspondence to the previous court. He said thatI had not
told him about the correspondence. I said but it was written in all my
statements. Mr. Webb was mortified as his own advocate admitted that. In other
words both advocates discreetly admitted that Mr. Webb had not shown my
evidence.
- Claim 2: was about loosing the chance
to do a transaction becauseTrident’s had been negligent. Trident had lied about
this matter extensively. I asked many questions about this matter but Mr. Webb
had no answer.At some point he became red like a tomato, but he kept his mouth
well shut.
- Claim 3 was about the accounts of my
company. Evidence showed that Trident had manipulated the accounts of my
company in order to cover up their misunderstanding.
However
Mr. Webb had said nothing about this matter to the previous court. I asked Mr.
Webb why he had not shown my evidence regarding the accounts to the other
court. After a lot of hesitation and mumbling and jumbling he turned to his
Worship and whispered because “it was fishy!!!”
Well… I had sued Trident because my case
was fishy and I wanted everything to be
properly examined by the court. I think that is the reason that many people go
to court. What sort of advocate does not wish to show fishy matters to the
court? Naturally Mr. Webb had not an answer.
So basically I received no answer during
one and a half day of cross-examination. It was a farce.
Mr. Swift explained to the court that
advocates are allowed to use their discretion and Mr. Webb had used his
discretion. In other words advocates can do and say whatever they want and get
away with it.Mr. Swift referred to an authority for a penal case. I answered
that Mr. Webb had used his discretion in the wrong way. Both advocated looked
mortified. At the end of the hearing I had the pleasure to see that Mr Webb was
in tears. So at least he understood how people felt when he used his stupid
discretion and made a mess in their cases.
Transcript of the Judgement of His Worship Needham dated 19 Nov 2013
This is the most interesting part of it!
The transcript was 55 pages. I was very
flattered to see that the very intelligent judge, referred to me as an
intelligent woman twice and said that I had a lot of confidence in myself which
was true to some extent! Never in my life I considered myself particularly
intelligent or had any confidence in myself specially during that trial! But if
the very intelligent judge says so, I certainly don’t argue with him.I framed that
page of the transcript and put it on my desk.
However I wonder why he considered me intelligent? Was it because of
something that I had said? Was it because of the way I put my case and
cross-examined the Defendant?I don’t know….as in spite of my intelligence I
lost the case!
The first part was about authorities
which I don’t understand, but apparently although my case was not penal, His
Worship accepted the authority for the penal case.He should know better…
Then about the 3 claims and Mr. Webb’s
negligence:
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Claim 1: Regarding my word against Trident’s word: His
Worship decided that the context of the situation was not important and the
chain of correspondence did not count. In other words he said that Trident was
right and in that case I was either insane or a liar! I wonder how I can be
intelligent, insane or liar all at the same time?
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Claim 2: Regarding the loss of a chance claim His
Worship decided that I had not indicated the quantum so the claim did not
count. Mr. Webb and Mr. Swift were very lucky because no where in their
statements they had said anything about quantum.They were lucky that His Worship
came up with a decision that they themselves had not thought about!
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Claim 3: regarding
the accounts of the company His Worship decided that Mr. Webb was right if he
did not explain a ‘fishy’ situation for the court! I wonder what does that
mean? Why wouldn’t the court wish to hear or examine a fishy case??I thought that
was precisely what the courts did…I went to several hearings in the courts of
justice of London to see how things happened and I was amazed by the way judges
examined ‘fishy’ cases. But perhaps that is not the case in Isle of Man.
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During y closing
submissons, I explained clearly how Trident had lied and cheated and Mr. Webb
had failed to show it to the previous court. I talked about half and hour and
His Worship took notes continuously. However in the transcript he said, I said
‘something;’…..Well I talk for half an hour and His Worship hears just
‘something’? That something was intelligent or a lie? His Worship did not say a
word in the transcript about what I had said. What a cover up!
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I really wanted to
make an appeal and see what would other judges say about ‘fishy’ cases? Would
they wish to hear that some local professional had lied, cheated, covered up
and fabricated documents specially during the trial, or not?
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I had been very
lucky to hear His Honour Doyle the First
Deemster of IOM during a hearing. I really wanted to know what he would say
about this matter? But I had already wasted 5 years of my time and did not wish
to waste another 5 years. I thought no Deemster would overturn the judgement of
another Deemster in favour of some stupid or intelligent foreign litigant in
person. If I wanted justice I would have to get out of IOM and reach the Privy
Council in London and sadly my life was waiting for me to do many things which
I had missed to do during those 5 years. So I gave up.
I tried to put
myself in His Worship’s armchair to see the case from his point of view…
On one side there
was a local advocate defended by another local advocate, sued for negligence
because he had failed to show a court that a local company had lied and
cheated.
On the other side
there was some foreign litigant in person who nobody knew…
Who was right? What
should be written in the judgement which was public?...
I checked
judgements on the court’s website to see what were the chances of foreign
litigant in person…well…you should check it for yourself!
I lost a lot of
money in this case, but several local law firms made a lot of money thanks to
the judgement.
Conclusion: If
local parties make a mess in your business, don’t bother to take your case to
the court, as they don’t wish to hear it!
